14 thoughts on “Christoph Waltz Movies”

1. Ignoring on parts of the site a star who has been a much bigger box office performer over the years in preference to one who has had relevantly little commercial clout, could be said to perhaps be undervaluing what is probably the main raison d’etre of the site: to compare and contrast the box-office performances of thespians and their movies over the years.

   In those circumstances -ie airbrushing out the contribution to a movie by a major historical box office star-it could be argued that credence is being given to for example what I understand to be Steve’s take on the matter: that generally speaking box office stats of yesteryear are of little value or interest today.

   I do not agree with that and therefore I prefer to be given as precise as possible relevant information about those involved with any particular movie and I want to avoid the self-indulgence of guys like say Joel Hirschhorn whose habit is often to promote their own favorites and air their own prejudices [of which it would seem that he in particular had many].

   FILM: Desiree
   DATE of RELEASE: 1954
   STARS: Michael Rennie and Jean Simmons.

   Such a listing would be seriously misleading to anyone who was (a) not familiar with that movie or with those who contributed to it and (b) who was oblivious to the fact that a more correct listing was ‘hidden’ elsewhere on the site. Therefore a viewer who disliked or at least was not interested in Rennie or Simmons but could otherwise be attracted to the movie might well decide to give it a miss on any re-run or DVD release.

   According I personally look for listings that are as historically accurate as possible and which keep it simple in that they as I have said “Give to Caesar those things that are Caesar’s”; in short no attempt to second-guess who among those performers in a film released years ago might be more popular today.

   “We look at the world through our likes and dislikes, hopes and fears, opinions and judgments. We want everyone to behave as we think they should; otherwise we get agitated. But we are here to accept the world as it is, even as we work to make it better.” [Eknath Easwaran, spiritual teacher]

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   1. Good points Bob. I admit that sometimes my personal preference pop up in the UMR co-star link….for instance Michael Caine gets a spot regardless of how small a movie he appears in. I agree if I said Michael Rennie was the star of Desiree that would be severely misleading. However saying Reilly and Winslet were the stars of Carnage is far from misleading. Regardless of billing….the four stars of that movie have roughly the same size part…granted I have not counted lines and timed screen time. If you click on the Carnage UMR page…Jodie is listed first….though not sure how that works….as billing and ABC order do not seem to be how our database puts the thespians in order…but luckily for my argument she is first.

      Another factor is quantity of times used. What does this mean? In our database…Carnage is linked to 11 different UMR subjects (not all posted yet). Jodie is the first one listed in 9 of 11 of those subjects….one is her page and she can not be one of her co-stars……so the only time Jodie is not listed is in this page. The count…Jodie is listed 9 times, Kate is listed 7 times, John C. is listed 3 times and Christoph has not been listed once.

      Once again…good points….but I think for this page we will stick with Kate and John C….and let Jodie rest a bit. Good stuff as always.

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2. Excellent supporting actor, his two Oscars well deserved and both for Tarantino films.

   “It was all me, James. It’s always been me. The author of all your pain.”

   Waltz will be back torturing 007 next year as Ernst Stavro Blofeld in No Time to Die.

   I’ve seen 14 of the 16 films on the chart. The two I missed are Tulip Fever and Muppets Most Wanted. Favorites include- Inglourious Basterds, Django Unchained, Green Hornet, Tarzan, Alita, Epic, The Three Musketeers and Spectre.

   Django rated higher than Basterds? Interesting. I haven’t rated Tarantino yet on my videos so I don’t know how these films will score by my sources. I know Pulp Fiction will easily top them all.

   Good stuff Bruce. Vote Up!

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   1. Hey Steve….thanks for checking out our Christoph Waltz page. Our tally counts are pretty close….16 to 14. Both of his QT Oscar winning performance movies are very highly rated…with Django having a slight advantage….but it is close. I agree neither will top Pulp Fiction. I did not really like his Bond character….his Blofield pales in comparison to Pleasance and Savalas’ Ernest. Maybe he will be better in the next Bond…and maybe he will have lost his hair. As for the ones you missed…Tulip Fever is a surprisingly entertaining movie…and I would recommend it. Muppets Most Wanted was ok at best….why do Muppet movies keep getting made? The Three Musketeers on my 3D system looks pretty good….a fun movie that got ignored by audiences and despised by critics. Good stuff as always.

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3. Christoph is not on the Oracle of Bacon Top 1000 Center of the Hollywood Universe list. The following actors on the list have appeared with him in a film.

   11 SAMUEL L. JACKSON THE LEGEND OF TARZAN (2016)
   16 TERENCE STAMP BIG EYES (2014/I)
   36 ROD STEIGER Breakthrough (1979)
   38 UDO KIER DOWNSIZING (2017)
   39 JIM BROADBENT THE LEGEND OF TARZAN (2016)
   64 TOM WILKINSON THE GREEN HORNET (2011)
   105 ROBERT MITCHUM Breakthrough (1979)
   132 PETER STORMARE The Zero Theorem (2013)
   157 MATT DAMON DOWNSIZING (2017)
   157 MATT DAMON THE ZERO THEOREM (2013)
   175 BEN GAZZARA QUICKER THAN THE EYE (1988)
   196 JUDI DENCH SPECTRE (2015)
   196 JUDI DENCH TULIP FEVER (2017)
   243 HAL HOLBROOK Water for Elephants (2011)
   299 RICHARD BURTON Breakthrough (1979)
   313 JOHN STANDING QUEEN’S MESSENGER (2001)
   328 MIRANDA RICHARDSON Muppets Most Wanted (2014)
   343 JON POLITO BIG EYES (2014/I)
   364 RAY LIOTTA Muppets Most Wanted (2014)
   378 JODIE FOSTER Carnage (2011)
   404 SCOTT WILSON Our God’s Brother (1997)
   437 TOBY JONES MUPPETS MOST WANTED (2014)
   462 DANNY HUSTON BIG EYES (2014/I)
   503 MICHAEL PARKS Breakthrough (1979)
   509 DAVID THEWLIS THE ZERO THEOREM (2013)
   539 RALPH FIENNES SPECTRE (2015)
   581 DJIMON HOUNSOU THE LEGEND OF TARZAN (2016)
   592 JOHN C. REILLY Carnage (2011)
   602 KEVIN SPACEY HORRIBLE BOSSES 2 (2014)
   602 KEVIN SPACEY Ordinary Decent Criminal (2000)
   612 LEONARDO DICAPRIO Django Unchained (2012)
   618 SID HAIG DJANGO UNCHAINED (2012)
   627 DAVID HAYMAN ORDINARY DECENT CRIMINAL (2000)
   638 SALMA HAYEK Muppets Most Wanted (2014)
   666 TIL SCHWEIGER INGLORIOUS BASTARDS (2009)
   666 TIL SCHWEIGER MUPPETS MOST WANTED (2014)
   666 TIL SCHWEIGER THE THREE MUSKETEERS (2011)
   689 ANTON DIFFRING Wahnfried (1986)
   707 COLIN FARRELL Epic (2013)
   707 COLIN FARRELL Ordinary Decent Criminal (2000)
   719 WALTON GOGGINS DJANGO UNCHAINED (2012)
   733 DANIEL CRAIG SPECTRE (2015)
   739 HUGH BONNEVILLE MUPPETS MOST WANTED (2014)
   761 JAMES FRANCO The Green Hornet (2011)
   774 CAMERON DIAZ The Green Hornet (2011)
   841 MILLA JOVOVICH THE THREE MUSKETEERS (2011)
   850 KATE WINSLET Carnage (2011)
   872 STEPHEN DILLANE ORDINARY DECENT CRIMINAL (2000)
   895 TIM GUINEE WATER FOR ELEPHANTS (2011)
   913 MONICA BELLUCCI SPECTRE (2015)
   924 AMY ADAMS BIG EYES (2014/I)
   941 CURT JURGENS Breakthrough (1979)
   947 MARY KAY PLACE DOWNSIZING (2017)
   HM (876) DEXTER FLETCHER MUPPETS MOST WANTED (2014)
   HM (876) DEXTER FLETCHER THE THREE MUSKETEERS (2011)

   Sid Haig who worked with Christoph in Django Unchained and is # 618 on the list passed away today.

   Christoph has appeared with 11 Oscar winners.

   ALICIA VIKANDER TULIP FEVER (2017)
   JAMIE FOXX Django Unchained (2012)
   JAMIE FOXX HORRIBLE BOSSES 2 (2014)
   JENNIFER CONNELLY ALITA: BATTLE ANGEL (2019)
   JODIE FOSTER Carnage (2011)
   JUDI DENCH SPECTRE (2015)
   JUDI DENCH TULIP FEVER (2017)
   KATE WINSLET Carnage (2011)
   KEVIN SPACEY HORRIBLE BOSSES 2 (2014)
   KEVIN SPACEY Ordinary Decent Criminal (2000)
   LEONARDO DICAPRIO Django Unchained (2012)
   MAHERSHALA ALI ALITA: BATTLE ANGEL (2019)
   REESE WITHERSPOON Water for Elephants (2011)
   ROD STEIGER Breakthrough (1979)

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   1. Hey Dan. As always…thanks for these epic lists. Starting with the second list first….11 seems small…but his Hollywood career is just at 10 years. I suspect his totals will climb and climb. Lots of two timers on this list…as in two times a co-star with an Oscar winner. First list….hmmm….one of the smaller lists that you have provided….but lots of stars in the mix. Most frequent co-star appears to be Til S. Gotta admit…I am not aware of that person at all. Not surprised he is not on the Oracle list….but his career is really just getting going. Thanks again for taking the time to put these lists together.

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4. HI BRUCE Thanks for another of your combative-friendly and challenging feedbacks. You must really permit us ‘Greats’ to have our little OCD eccentricities and in that respect I’m in good company because that great detective genius Hercule Poirot couldn’t resist straightening crooked ornaments on other people’s furniture and mantelpieces. So within that context I must uphold that

   1/Although Carnage was as you say an ensemble film, on the screen and in posters and cast lists [see Wikipedia for example] Jodie as the biggest star in the movie is first billed. “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s.” Guys like Brucie Willis might well have had their “moment in the sun” but that doesn’t prevent his being given credit for even a virtual non-appearance in Split.

   2/ Jodie in her heyday was able to provide us with a series of box office hits: Silence of the Lambs, Contact, Panic Room, Flight Plan, Elysium and the title role in Nell [adjusted worldwide gross $230 million against a budget of approx $45 million in 2019 dollars.].Kate has NEVER been the top star and/or leading lady in a run of commercial hits

   3/Since they appeared together in Carnage in 2011 Kate has been in 2 franchise hits [a long 4/5 years ago] in which Shailene Woodley is the star. Otherwise since 2011 Kate has been in a 10-movie string of flops that have in total earned a combined adjusted domestic gross of just $130 million or a paltry $13 million per movie.

   4/In short, she still has no personal box office credentials. I try to be on guard against confusing output/participation with stardom. Indeed if Kate Winslet was ever to be regarded as a bigger STAR than ANYBODY of note I would be reminded of an episode in the 1950 TV comedy series Sgt Bilko [aka You’ll Never get Rich] in which because of a mix-up in published photographs Pte Doberman “the ugliest guy in the US Army” actually wins a competition for “Best looking Soldier” in the American Armed Forces.

   COL HALL [Aghast] We must keep this under wraps. If it gets out that Doberman is the best looking soldier they’ll be queuing up for miles around to see what the rest of us look like!”

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   1. Hey Bob….if we agreed on everything….things would get pretty stale. Good points on Foster and Winslet. Kate almost has twice as many Oscar nominations as Jodie. If she can pick up a couple more she will be among the all-time giants in total acting nominations. Of the two…I think Kate has the greatest chance to still be great..Jodie’s career has pretty much stalled/been retired. She has not had a hit in 10 plus years…has no movies in the works….and looked old in Hotel Artemis. As for Kate…she has 5 movies in production….has a major role in Avatar 2, is already getting raves for her work on Ammonite and is apparently in talks for a third Leonardo DiCaprio movie. Still….I can live with agreeing to disagree on this one. I appreciate the view from the other side of the aisle…lol. Good stuff as always.

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      1. 1/Kate Winslett has just 3 films that crashed the magical Cogerson $100 million in adjusted US grosses: Titanic and the two Divergent films that starred Shailene Woodley. Other than the latter 2 movies Kate has been in 26 movies for which we have available US grosses since the year 2000 – ie since the start of this century.

         2/In 8 of those 26 she partnered/supported stars who could be described as major to some extent. Despite that, whilst a few of the 8 were modest hits their overall adjusted domestic gross was just about $450 million – ie a low average of only $56 million per movie.

         3/In the remaining 18 of the 26 despite having no other stars who could be described as major Kate’s role was as often as not supporting and low billed and the total adjusted US box office gross for the 18 is an amazingly low $220 million – a derisory average of $13 million per movie. Here are adjusted US grosses for the 5 lowest:

         2007/Love and Cigarettes $0.7 million
         2014/A Little Chaos $0.6 million
         2015/The Dressmaker$2.2 million
         2017/Wonder Wheel $1.4 million
         2017/Witch’s Flower$2.4 million

         It is mystifying to me that ANY movie can perform that badly if it gets a release at all in today’s massive US cinema market. Burt Lancaster once quipped that the only people who went to see his 1980 Atlantic City were “myself and Kirk Douglas’ family.” If Kirk went to see many of Kate’s films he must have left his family behind!

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         1. There is once more an ornament that is crooked on the mantelpiece. In my previous post I wrongly spelled Kate’s surname of Winslet – apologies to her.

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5. I have seen just 2 of the films mentioned above: Green Hornet and Carnage. I watched Green Hornet for Cameron Diaz but Carnage was the more enjoyable. The top star in it is Jodie Foster who is not mentioned in the co-star links column.

   I must confess that the ‘purist’ in me is petty enough to regard it as sacrilege when even informal credits potentially mislead viewers by ignoring the biggest star(s) in a movie [the only small weakness that I have ever detected in the Cogerson site]. I still haven’t gotten over the impression being given that Angela Lansbury and not Hedy Lamarr was Victor Mature’s Delilah; and a dagger seems to go through my heart when I see Miss Loy mentioned in the co-star link columns for The Thin Man whilst Asta/Skippy*** is ignored.

   Alongside his successful big screen career Chris has been highly prolific on television appearing in over 70 TV productions between 1977 and 2013. He has also directed two films: the TV movie 2000’s Wenn Man Sic Traut [something to do with trusting your passion and having the courage to take a new direction] and the biographical crime drama Georgetown released in April this year. In the latter he is the top-billed lead and plays ambitious social climber Ulrich Mott. He is supported in the film by Annette Benning and Vanessa Redgrave [I ALWAYS quote the acting credits correctly but Wiki lists the two women (1) Vanessa Redgrave (2) Annette Benning]. IMDB gives Georgetown a fine 72% rating.

   Christopher’s acting is widely appreciated as he has received 85 acting awards and 40 noms and in addition he has built up a nice little $20 million personal net worth according to Celebrity Net Worth site.

   ***That cute little chap too is highly selective himself it seems: apparently he didn’t immediately take to Al Leach when making The Awful Truth in 1937 and production was delayed for a bit until a trainer came onto the set and trained Skippy/Asta to like Archie. Al Leach was always a bigger star than Rock Hudson but Rock had one advantage over Archie as according to a film historian Hudson was so popular in the 1950s and early 1960s that “even dogs followed him about!”

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   1. Hey Bob. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on Christoph Waltz. I have seen all 16 of these movies. Seems he has only been making event movies over the last decade. He has a lot of German movies that never reached North American theaters…..so it is not possible to say I am a Waltz completist.

      Concerning Carnage…at this point…we have trailer pages on all 4 stars of the movie…somebody had to not be one of the two…so I went with John C. Reilly and Kate Winslet…both seem to be bigger stars these days. I do not think of Carnage as a Jodie Foster movie…but an ensemble movie….on the UMR Carnage movie page (just created)…Jodie has her moment in the sun.

      As for S & D….seems I switched those links after we got a Hedy page done. I did just create a Samson and Delilah UMR movie page as well…https://www.ultimatemovierankings.com/samson-and-delilah-1949/. When Asta gets an UMR page maybe she will bump Loy from the Thin Man pages..lol.

      I agree Mr. Waltz has been a very busy man. Good stats on his award collecting…85 in 10 years is very impressive…as I am assuming most of those 85 happened after 2009. Good stuff as always.

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   2. 5/The overall 28 movies that Kate has appeared in since the new millennium [ie 2 + 8 + 18 in the breakdown in Part One] have a paltry average per movie of $35 million in adjusted US grosses.

      6/Kate’s ‘stardom’ would seem largely confined to supporting major stars, ensemble/voice roles and/or small-scale art house films with low budgets and tiny grosses. I saw A little Chaos for example at our local art house cinema.

      7/Some of the low grossers did better abroad than in the US but usually not by much. For example the total adjusted worldwide gross of 10 that I examined is around $225 million – average of $22.5. Yet a few for which I could locate budgets had relatively high production costs – for example A Little Chaos $27 million in today’s money against a total adjusted worldwide gross of a meagre $11 million. The financial loss there must have been enormous. I did enjoy that movie though.

      8/To do well in the Cogerson ranking charts a performer must [rightly in my view] have a good consistent record in terms of both acting and box office. If on the basis of her horrendous box office performance in the 19 years of this century that I have described above Kate is regarded as a star of any magnitude, the bottom line for recognition as a star must be situated somewhere well below the floor.

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